Posts by Pete Zahut

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"Foot in the Door", or "Apathy with a Cart"?

by stuckinarut2 in

we have all noticed this and commented in other threads.... but isn't it interesting that in times past, witnesses earned a reputation of being so determined to share "the kingdom message" that they would put their foot in the door at a house to keep the conversation going!.

now, the apathy and lack of effort in service; particularly with the literature carts shows the complete opposite!

yet...the end is supposed to be even closer right?

Pete Zahut

I am aware that there is a group of purists who would say that it's not jealousy over today's JW having it easier, but it's the power of conviction that JW's should have if they want to spread their word. And that conviction would make them be like the "foot-in-the-door" Witnesses.

I think most here couldn't care less about how they go about the work now....it's more a matter of pointing out the irony they see. I'm glad they aren't sticking their foot in the door or are being required to do as much but it does irk me that they once held scriptural reasonings over our heads as biblical proof that we should be working harder and doing more as the end drew near....not less.

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Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views

by Watchtower-Free in

original thread here.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.

Pete Zahut

Billy the Ex-Bethelite a day ago

Those public speaking skills she learned at the Kingdumb Haul have really come back to bite Botchtower Corp in the a$s.

Her Counsel Slip will be marked as follows:

[G] Good [ I ]= Improved [W] = Work on

[G] Pitch, Power and Modulation.

[G] Repetition for Emphasis

[G] Audience Contact

[ I ] Use of Gestures.

[ I ] Use of Notes

[W] for Audience Encouraged To Use The Bible. (she totally blew that one)

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What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

was wondering what you guys can add to it..

Pete Zahut

1. Why is it that Christians can accept the idea that God had no creator and has always existed but they insist that the that the earth had to be created by someone?

If no one created God and if he has been here forever, then the rules of logic demand that the same can be said for the universe. The universe could have always existed and it evolved as scientists would have us believe, based on facts and plausible scientific theory.

2. The account of Jesus death in the Bible is a very sad one but everyone seemed so shocked that it happened even though the purpose of him coming here was to die and buy back life for mankind. If the people of earth at that time accepted him as he and the apostles had hoped, would he have just grown old and died even though he was perfect like Adam?

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Could you ever really relax in a self-driving car?

by Simon in

i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.

the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.

it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.

Pete Zahut

With all the texting and driving that's going on these days, there are already lots of "self driving" cars.

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How many years will pass before the world recognizes we were right?

by John Aquila in

its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..

i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.

we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.

Pete Zahut

In a hundred years....all new people. Same as what happened between 1914 and today.

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My pic with a WT

by jerryjax99 in

just trying to do laundry when the boyfriend makes me take a pic of me with a wt.

:p .

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Pete Zahut

Any thought provoking articles ?

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How many years will pass before the world recognizes we were right?

by John Aquila in

its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..

i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.

we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.

Pete Zahut

How many years will pass before the world recognizes we were right?

The world isn't watching and as far as anyone recognizing that we were right, it will be a one by one thing. Individual JW's, one at a time, will recognize what others have been saying since the beginning, just like we did.

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

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i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

Pete Zahut

Pete Zahut "Unlike the Catholics, they have never come out and formally apologized for the falsehoods and wrongdoings of those who went before them or for the ones they taught or committed themselves."

BY RESEARCH, DO YOU MEAN A 2 SECOND GOOGLE SEARCH LIKE THIS ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologies_made_by_Pope_John_Paul_II

If the Governing Body ever ONCE came out publicly and apologized OUTRIGHT for their own errors and wrongdoings past and present, like the Catholic church did, I could forgive them. Instead when they realize a certain doctrine has become ridiculously wrong over time they don't admit that it never was from Jehovah. Instead they drop it altogether or change it to something as equally unprovable and call it "new light" or "new loving new arrangements from Jehovah " or "clarifications of current understandings" "refinements" or "adjustments" . Not once have they ever simply said "We were wrong and we are sorry for the damage , suffering and inconvenience this has cause so many of you." Instead, they ignore the fact that millions of people spend trillions of of volunteer hours spreading their wrong teachings all across the planet. It's all about damage control rather than sorrow for what they've done. Then they skirt around the subject and continue on as before, finding new ways to manipulate people with half truths and calculated omissions of information.

These men have a form of godly devotion but are proving false to it's power.

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Why BOGUS PREDICTIONS and CHANGEABLE TEACHINGS only strengthen JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

by TerryWalstrom in

today's jw knows less about the history of the watchtower religion than ever before.. there is no need to know.

only the present moment of new light has meaning.. there are too many enemies surrounding jw's to risk learning something faith-weakening.. such as facts.

the watchtower religion (jehovah's witnesses) has been 'getting away with it' since 1874.. setting dates built on false chronology, pyramidology, slanted quotations about world events, and misrepresenting their own authority, (channel of jehovah) is a profitable enterprise for the watchtower org.. how do we know they 'get away with it'?.

Pete Zahut

For example, there was no urgent need for them to talk about all their past errors and mistakes with the Types/Antitypes and Parables, but they made a huge deal about it, and about going through and correcting those views.

To me this was simply a "loss leader" intended to make the average JW see the GB as magnanimous and humble and thus worthy of their continued support. The GB was willing to take one on the chin with this one, especially since this was a doctrine that most JW's didn't understand anyway and would be happy to see being thrown out. Time would soon bear out that these old understandings were incorrect anyway so they may as well make lemonade with the lemons that were handed down to them.

Excellent post....a keeper for sure.

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A possible new and disturbing dynamic of control in JW families.

by Island Man in

we all know that young children are very impressionable and love cartoons.

lately, watchtower seems to be using caleb and sophia to indoctrinate young children into becoming zealous jw cultists.. what if this largely succeeds - at least while the children are still young?

what effect could/would this have on family dynamics, specifically, the the parent-child relationship?.

Pete Zahut

Kids in Field Service with Daddy and Mommy will get a mixed message when they pull through the Starbucks drive-up window and order double tall Cafe' Mochas with extra whipped cream.